{"id":1521,"date":"2026-10-31T17:29:43","date_gmt":"2026-10-31T17:29:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1521"},"modified":"2026-11-03T15:22:51","modified_gmt":"2026-11-03T15:22:51","slug":"kunkel-records","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1521","title":{"rendered":"Kunkel records and open questions"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style>.family-topic-breadcrumb{font-size:.95rem;margin:0 0 22px}.family-topic-intro{max-width:68ch;line-height:1.7}.family-topic-menu{display:grid;grid-template-columns:repeat(2,minmax(0,1fr));gap:14px;margin:26px 0}.family-topic-menu a{display:block;padding:18px;border:1px solid #c9cec8;border-radius:4px;background:#f5f2e9;text-decoration:none;color:#293d30;min-height:52px}.family-topic-menu strong{display:block;font-size:1.1rem}.family-topic-menu span{display:block;margin-top:6px;color:#4f574e;line-height:1.55;font-size:.95rem}.family-topic-related{border-top:1px solid #d8d2c5;margin-top:32px;padding-top:18px}.family-topic-related a{display:inline-block;margin:6px 22px 6px 0}.family-topic-breadcrumb a:focus-visible,.family-topic-menu a:focus-visible,.family-topic-related a:focus-visible{outline:3px solid #98513b;outline-offset:4px}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb){max-width:960px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb)>p{line-height:1.7}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb) :is(h2,h3){scroll-margin-top:24px}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb) a{overflow-wrap:anywhere}@media(max-width:600px){.family-topic-menu{grid-template-columns:1fr}.family-topic-menu a{padding:16px}}<\/style>\n<nav class=\"family-topic-breadcrumb\" aria-label=\"Breadcrumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/\">Home<\/a> \u203a <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=13\">Kunkel family<\/a> \u203a Kunkel records and open questions<\/nav>\n<p class=\"family-topic-intro\">The marriage, census and newspaper sources, with open questions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"people-and-places\">People, places, and stories<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Chariton Courier county-payment notices name a John Kunkel in bridge and lumber work from 1902 through at least 1922. They offer context for the family sawmill story, but the recovered notices do not by themselves establish that the contractor was this John Kunkel or that he operated a sawmill. <a href=\"#source-k3\">[K3]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The family\u2019s earlier immigration route is still unresolved. An original passenger list records John Mich. Kunkel, a 33-year-old farmer, arriving at Baltimore from Bremen aboard the Clementine on July 28, 1840, with Cincinnati as his destination. The passenger\u2019s identity has not yet been securely connected to Michael Kunkle of the 1880 Indiana household. His residence on the manifest is read approximately as \u201cHabersdam,\u201d and no ancestral hometown should yet be assigned from that spelling. <a href=\"#source-k4\">[K4]<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<section id=\"kunkel-allgeier-family-clues\"><h2>Looking for John\u2019s brother and sister<\/h2><p>John Kunkel\u2019s earlier Indiana household gives us other names to follow. The 1860 census lists a nine-year-old Joseph and four-year-old John with Michael and Catharine. Later records follow a Joseph Kunkel and his wife Pauline through their marriage, households and his death in 1905. His death certificate names his parents as Mike Kunkel and Kate Schramm.<\/p><p>Together, those details strongly support Joseph as John\u2019s brother, though none of these records explicitly calls them brothers. A marriage index for Catharine Kunkel and Alexander Kessler also gives a Schram form of the mother\u2019s name. That is a useful lead for John\u2019s mother, not yet a reason to replace the uncertain surname on John\u2019s own death certificate. The original parish marriages remain to be read.<\/p>\n<h2>Rosa\u2019s Allgeier family: promising, but unfinished<\/h2><p>Rosa\u2019s side has a similar puzzle. An 1870 Indiana household lists Rosa, thirteen, with younger Andrew and Joseph and a woman whose name is difficult to read. In 1880, Andrew and Joseph appear as the sons of a widowed farmer. The ages and place help connect the households, but the woman\u2019s name, age and reported birthplace do not all agree.<\/p><p>Andrew\u2019s 1889 marriage return names his parents as Antony Allgeier and Richardine or Rickardine Doll. Rosa\u2019s much later death certificate instead reports a father named Andrew and a mother whose name appears Rosina-like, with Doll as her surname. We have not proved that Andrew and Rosa were siblings, and we are not choosing one parent pair over the other. Rosa\u2019s original baptism or a family estate record could make the difference.<\/p>\n<details class=\"wp-block-details\"><summary>Sources and the names still under review<\/summary>\n<p>Joseph Kunkel: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ancestry.com\/imageviewer\/collections\/60716\/images\/45232_356074-01714?pid=2929575\">Indiana death certificate, Gibson County, record 230, November 30, 1905<\/a>, names wife Paulina and parents Mike Kunkel\/Kate Schramm. Birth and parentage are retrospective information. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:33SQ-GYBW-9QP5\">1880 Jackson Township census, ED 168, page 13<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:S3HT-DZDC-WW\">1900 White River Township census, ED 19, sheet 9A<\/a> support continuity of the couple. Joseph\u2019s reported birth and death dates differ across census, certificate and grave-index sources; they have not been harmonized.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:S3HY-65DS-4V9\">Alexander Kessler and Catharine Kunkel\u2019s civil marriage<\/a>, Dubois County volume 2, page 244: license May 17, ceremony May 22, 1866. It names no parents. A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/1:1:XFJP-V14\">separate St. Anthony parish index<\/a> names Johannis Michaelis and Catharinae Schram. The index\u2019s parental wording has not been verified against the restricted original register. Catharine\u2019s identification as John\u2019s sister remains cumulative rather than an explicit sibling statement.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ancestry.com\/imageviewer\/collections\/6742\/images\/4240582-00805?pid=45646407\">1880 Patoka census, ED 163, page 20, household 166<\/a>: the mother\u2019s name is provisionally read Rithertina; age 40, widow and farmer, with Andrew 18 and Joseph 17 explicitly her sons. The earlier 1870 household gives a Raka-like name, also age 40, and Baden rather than the later W\u00fcrttemberg-like abbreviation. Neither record explicitly identifies Rosa Kunkel as their sister.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:S3HY-X9XC-BS\">Andrew Allgeier\u2019s 1889 marriage return<\/a>, DGS 4476502, image 391: father Antony; mother\u2019s maiden name Richardine\/Rickardine Doll. May 7 is the return date, not a securely established ceremony date. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sos.mo.gov\/images\/archives\/deathcerts\/1939\/1939_00006208.PDF\">Rosie Kunkel\u2019s 1939 Missouri death certificate 6208<\/a> reports Andrew Allgier-like and an overwritten Rosina-like Doll, both born Indiana. These disagreements remain unresolved. No German village or new ancestral generation is established by this comparison. Provider access may require sign-in or an authorized location.<\/p><\/details><\/section>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"sources\">Sources and confidence<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary>Read the sources and evidence notes<\/summary>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=65\">Sources and how to read them<\/a> explains how records, recollections and unresolved questions are presented.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"source-k1\">K1. Dubois County, Indiana, marriage book 3, page 329: John Kunkel and Rosa Algeyer; license dated October 1, 1877, marriage dated November 20, 1877. The dates come from a preserved copy of the original license and marriage return. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.duboiscountyin.org\/departments\/records_library\/1839-1895.php\">county\u2019s official marriage index<\/a> also lists the November 20 wedding date and book\/page locator.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"source-k2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/10thcensus0275unit\/page\/n141\/mode\/1up\">K2. 1880 U.S. census, Jackson Township, Dubois County, Indiana<\/a>; enumerated June 18, 1880; Supervisor\u2019s District 1, Enumeration District 168, manuscript page 21 (stamped 160, form-side A), dwelling 121, family 122, lines 9\u201315; NARA microfilm T9, roll 275. Internet Archive, 10thcensus0275unit, image n141. The original schedule identifies Michael and Catharine as John\u2019s father and mother, and Adam as his uncle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"source-k3\">K3. Chariton Courier county-payment notices: <a href=\"https:\/\/newspaperarchive.com\/keytesville-chariton-courier-jul-11-1902-p-1\/\">July 11, 1902, page 1<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/newspaperarchive.com\/keytesville-chariton-courier-nov-18-1904-p-4\/\">November 18, 1904, page 4<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/newspaperarchive.com\/keytesville-chariton-courier-nov-05-1909-p-9\/\">November 5, 1909, page 9<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/newspaperarchive.com\/keytesville-chariton-courier-oct-13-1922-p-1\/\">October 13, 1922, page 1<\/a>. These are leads for comparing the contractor with the family\u2019s John Kunkel, not a completed identity proof.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"source-k4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/passengerlis18200002unit\/page\/n799\/mode\/1up\">K4. Baltimore passenger lists, NARA M255, roll 2, list 51: Clementine, from Bremen, July 28, 1840; passenger continuation sheet marked 6, John Mich. Kunkel entry<\/a>. Internet Archive, passengerlis18200002unit, image n799; vessel\/date divider at <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/passengerlis18200002unit\/page\/n792\/mode\/1up\">n792<\/a>, oath at <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/passengerlis18200002unit\/page\/n793\/mode\/1up\">n793<\/a>, and opening manifest at <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/passengerlis18200002unit\/page\/n794\/mode\/1up\">n794<\/a>. The <a href=\"https:\/\/immigrantships.net\/v13\/1800v13\/clementine18400728.html\">published transcription<\/a> labels him entry 192, but its numbering is editorial. The passenger\u2019s identity remains unconnected to the 1880 Indiana household. Adjacent passengers are not assumed to be his family.<\/p>\n<\/details>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"research-questions\">Research questions<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Can original parish records confirm the Schram\/Schramm lead for Catharine\u2019s maiden name? Can original records connect the 1840 passenger with the Indiana household? What evidence can identify the newspaper\u2019s bridge contractor and test the sawmill recollection? The earlier German hometown and older ancestry remain unresolved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Privacy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Personal details about living relatives are left out of this public account.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<nav class=\"family-topic-related\" aria-label=\"Related pages\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=13\">\u2190 Kunkel family<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1514\">Kunkel family line<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1520\">Kunkel family maps<\/a><\/nav>\n\n\n<script>(function(){function revealTopicTarget(){var name;try{name=decodeURIComponent(window.location.hash.slice(1));}catch(e){return;}if(!name){return;}var target=document.getElementById(name);if(!target){return;}var node=target.parentElement;while(node){if(node.tagName==='DETAILS'){node.open=true;}node=node.parentElement;}}revealTopicTarget();window.addEventListener('hashchange',revealTopicTarget);})();<\/script>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Home \u203a Kunkel family \u203a Kunkel records and open questions The marriage, census and newspaper sources, with open questions. People, places, and stories Chariton Courier county-payment notices name a John Kunkel in bridge and lumber work from 1902 through at least 1922. 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