{"id":1581,"date":"2026-10-31T17:35:16","date_gmt":"2026-10-31T17:35:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1581"},"modified":"2026-11-04T23:01:14","modified_gmt":"2026-11-04T23:01:14","slug":"shared-evidence-ports","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1581","title":{"rendered":"Departure and arrival ports"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style>.family-topic-breadcrumb{font-size:.95rem;margin:0 0 22px}.family-topic-intro{max-width:68ch;line-height:1.7}.family-topic-menu{display:grid;grid-template-columns:repeat(2,minmax(0,1fr));gap:14px;margin:26px 0}.family-topic-menu a{display:block;padding:18px;border:1px solid #c9cec8;border-radius:4px;background:#f5f2e9;text-decoration:none;color:#293d30;min-height:52px}.family-topic-menu strong{display:block;font-size:1.1rem}.family-topic-menu span{display:block;margin-top:6px;color:#4f574e;line-height:1.55;font-size:.95rem}.family-topic-related{border-top:1px solid #d8d2c5;margin-top:32px;padding-top:18px}.family-topic-related a{display:inline-block;margin:6px 22px 6px 0}.family-topic-breadcrumb a:focus-visible,.family-topic-menu a:focus-visible,.family-topic-related a:focus-visible{outline:3px solid #98513b;outline-offset:4px}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb){max-width:960px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb)>p{line-height:1.7}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb) :is(h2,h3){scroll-margin-top:24px}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb) a{overflow-wrap:anywhere}@media(max-width:600px){.family-topic-menu{grid-template-columns:1fr}.family-topic-menu a{padding:16px}}<\/style>\n<nav class=\"family-topic-breadcrumb\" aria-label=\"Breadcrumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/\">Home<\/a> \u203a <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=8\">Family branches<\/a> \u203a Departure and arrival ports<\/nav>\n<p class=\"family-topic-intro\">Bremen, Le Havre, Queenstown, New Orleans and New York. Read Delia\u2019s, Peter\u2019s and Thomas\u2019s records alongside the older, separately qualified passenger leads.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"alignwide\" id=\"four-branch-world-map\" aria-label=\"Four family branches on one world map\">\n<style>#four-branch-world-map{background:#f6f0e5;padding:clamp(12px,3vw,28px);color:#253d35}#four-branch-world-map h3{margin:28px 0 10px;font-size:1.35em}#four-branch-world-map .family-region{display:block;width:100%;height:auto;overflow:hidden;border:1px solid #adbdb3}#four-branch-world-map .family-tip{visibility:hidden}#four-branch-world-map .family-pin:hover .family-tip,#four-branch-world-map .family-pin:focus .family-tip{visibility:visible}#four-branch-world-map .family-pin:focus{outline:3px solid #253d35}#four-branch-world-map .family-card{padding:16px;margin:12px 0;background:#fffdf8;border-left:4px solid #a5b3a5;scroll-margin-top:40px}#four-branch-world-map .family-card:target{outline:3px solid #98513b;background:#fff4d9}#four-branch-world-map .family-legend{display:flex;flex-wrap:wrap;gap:10px 24px}#four-branch-world-map{box-sizing:border-box;max-width:1340px;width:100%}#four-branch-world-map .family-zoom{margin:12px 0 24px}#four-branch-world-map .family-zoom>input{width:20px;height:20px;vertical-align:middle;margin:12px 5px 12px 16px;accent-color:#354d3f}#four-branch-world-map .family-zoom>label{display:inline-block;padding:10px 8px;cursor:pointer;font-weight:bold}#four-branch-world-map .family-zoom>input:focus-visible+label{outline:3px solid #98513b}#four-branch-world-map .family-map-viewport{width:100%;overflow:auto;border:1px solid #adbdb3;background:#e5eff0;scrollbar-gutter:stable;overscroll-behavior-x:contain}#four-branch-world-map .family-map-viewport:focus-visible{outline:3px solid #98513b}#four-branch-world-map .family-map-viewport .family-region{max-width:none;width:100%;border:0}#family-zoom-150:checked~.family-map-viewport .family-region{width:150%}#family-zoom-200:checked~.family-map-viewport .family-region{width:200%}#four-branch-world-map .family-card{max-width:860px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto}@media print{#four-branch-world-map .family-map-viewport .family-region{width:100%!important}#four-branch-world-map .family-zoom>input,#four-branch-world-map .family-zoom>label{display:none}}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-lead-links{padding:14px 16px;border:1px dashed #354d3f;background:#fffdf8}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-lead-links ul{margin:8px 0;padding-left:24px}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-lead-links a{display:inline-block;min-height:24px;padding:6px 0}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-lead-card{border-left:4px dashed #354d3f;overflow-wrap:anywhere}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-lead-card h4{margin:0 0 8px;font-size:1.15em}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-lead-card p{margin:10px 0}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-source{font-size:.94em}#four-branch-world-map .swiss-marker:focus-visible{outline:3px solid #98513b}#family-route-ottilie:hover~.family-route-popups #family-tip-ottilie,#family-route-ottilie:focus~.family-route-popups #family-tip-ottilie,#family-route-agnes:hover~.family-route-popups #family-tip-agnes,#family-route-agnes:focus~.family-route-popups #family-tip-agnes,#family-route-john-curtis:hover~.family-route-popups #family-tip-john-curtis,#family-route-john-curtis:focus~.family-route-popups #family-tip-john-curtis{visibility:visible}<\/style>\n<h3>Departure and arrival ports: each voyage has its own evidence<\/h3>\n<div class=\"family-card\" id=\"family-place-new-york\"><strong>22. New York \u2014 entry port<\/strong><br><p><strong>Morrison \/ Morrisroe arrivals.<\/strong> Three relatives\u2019 own records now bring this port into focus: <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572#delia-teutonic-1899\">Delia on Teutonic, April 6, 1899<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572#peter-carmania-1906\">Peter, recorded as Peter Beirne, on Carmania, November 11, 1906<\/a>; and <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572#thomas-lusitania-1912\">Thomas on Lusitania, June 15, 1912<\/a>. Delia\u2019s account is in her later petition; Peter\u2019s and Thomas\u2019s arrivals also have linked passenger records. None establishes Michael Morrison\u2019s crossing.<\/p><p><strong>Older passenger lead:<\/strong><\/p><strong style=\"color:#98513b\">Roling \/ Bickel\u2013Budde research<\/strong><br><em>Passenger-list lead \u2014 family identity not proved.<\/em> Anna Budde \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582#ship-ottilie\">Ottilie<\/a> \u00b7 arrival 11 June 1860. Possible family match; identity still unproved. The transcription lists passenger 44, age 21 years 3 months, from Oldenburg. Original manifest pixels have not been reviewed; age and immigration-year conflicts remain. <a href=\"https:\/\/immigrantships.net\/v10\/1800v10\/ottilie18600611.html\">Read the published passenger transcription<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1476#louisa-bickel-parents\">Family comparison and unresolved evidence<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1586\">Back to maps<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"family-card\" id=\"family-place-new-orleans\"><strong>23. New Orleans \u2014 entry port<\/strong><br><strong style=\"color:#98513b\">Roling \/ Bickel\u2013Budde research<\/strong><br><em>Passenger-list lead \u2014 family identity not proved.<\/em> Joh. Heinr. Bickel \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582#ship-agnes\">Agnes<\/a> \u00b7 arrival 27 November 1848. Possible family match; identity still unproved. The transcription lists passenger 10, age 20, associated with Langula. The original full entry is not independently legible in the held screenshot; age conflicts remain. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.immigrantships.net\/v20\/1800v20\/agnes18481127.html\">Read the published passenger transcription<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1476#louisa-bickel-parents\">Family comparison and unresolved evidence<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1586\">Back to maps<\/a><p><strong>Walter family \u00b7 Bange branch.<\/strong> A New Orleans passenger group lists Franz and Cecilia Walter with eight children, including Rosa. This strongly matches the family described in Cecilia\u2019s 1895 obituary. The handwritten vessel name in the continuous manifest\u2019s header is now read as <em>John Curtis<\/em> (abbreviated \u201cJno Curtis\u201d), with M. Hogan as master; it records arrival from Havre on January 15, 1854. The <a href=\"https:\/\/news.google.com\/newspapers?nid=i_QFVEgXGzMC&amp;dat=18540117&amp;printsec=frontpage&amp;hl=en\"><cite>Daily True Delta<\/cite>, January 17, 1854, page 3 (select page 3)<\/a> independently names John Curtis from Havre under Hogan, and its passenger summary reports 292 in steerage. <strong>Reading correction, October 31, 2026:<\/strong> We previously misread the header as \u201cSt. Nicholas.\u201d That was an error in our reading, not an unresolved conflict between the records. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ellisisland.org\/arrival-details\/?id=QKNP-DY7B\">Read the original sequence: image 367 header; image 372, passengers 202\u2013211<\/a>. Rosa\u2019s listed age of 10 remains a discrepancy.<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"family-card\" id=\"family-place-bremen\"><strong>24. Bremen \u2014 departure port<\/strong><br><strong style=\"color:#98513b\">Roling \/ Bickel\u2013Budde research<\/strong><br><em>Passenger-list lead \u2014 family identity not proved.<\/em> Anna Budde \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582#ship-ottilie\">Ottilie<\/a> \u00b7 arrival New York 11 June 1860. Joh. Heinr. Bickel \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582#ship-agnes\">Agnes<\/a> \u00b7 New Orleans 27 Nov 1848. Departure dates unknown; both identities unproved. Both published transcriptions name Bremen. This is a city-level locator, not an exact departure wharf. No departure day is supplied here. The 1848 <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582#ship-agnes\">Agnes<\/a> record is linked below too. <a href=\"https:\/\/immigrantships.net\/v10\/1800v10\/ottilie18600611.html\">Read the published passenger transcription<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.immigrantships.net\/v20\/1800v20\/agnes18481127.html\">Agnes transcription<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1476#louisa-bickel-parents\">Family comparison and unresolved evidence<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1586\">Back to maps<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"family-card\" id=\"family-place-le-havre\"><strong>30. Le Havre, France \u2014 departure port<\/strong><br><strong style=\"color:#354d3f\">Bange \/ Walter research<\/strong><p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582#ship-walter-1854\">John Curtis manifest and contemporary newspaper<\/a> name Havre as the departure port for the voyage arriving at New Orleans on <strong>15 January 1854<\/strong>. Franz and Cecilia Walter with eight children form a strong candidate family group; the identification remains qualified, including Rosa\u2019s listed-age discrepancy. No departure date is established here.<\/p><p>The map connects the recorded ports schematically, not along a reconstructed ship track. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.geonames.org\/3003796\/le-havre.html\">city-level Le Havre point<\/a> is approximately 49.49346\u00b0 N, 0.10785\u00b0 E, not an exact wharf. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572#family-ship-map\">Back to the world map and journeys<\/a>.<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"family-card\" id=\"family-place-queenstown\"><h4>31. Queenstown (now Cobh), Ireland \u2014 departure port<\/h4><p><strong>Morrison \/ Morrisroe records.<\/strong> Delia\u2019s own 1928 petition reports departure in March 1899 aboard <em>Teutonic<\/em>, with the day left blank, and arrival at New York on April 6. Thomas\u2019s two-page <em>Lusitania<\/em> manifest records departure on June 9, 1912 and New York arrival on June 15; his later petition agrees on the ship and arrival date.<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572#delia-teutonic-1899\">Delia\u2019s journey and source<\/a> \u00b7 <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572#thomas-lusitania-1912\">Thomas\u2019s journey and original records<\/a>. The lines connect these named ports schematically. They do not establish Michael Morrison\u2019s crossing or the ships\u2019 precise courses.<\/p><p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.geonames.org\/2965260\/cobh.html\">Cobh city reference point<\/a> is approximately 51.85046\u00b0 N, 8.29480\u00b0 W. It represents historical Queenstown, not an exact departure dock.<\/p><\/div><\/section>\n\n\n\n<nav class=\"family-topic-related\" aria-label=\"Related pages\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=8\">\u2190 Family branches<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1586\">All family maps<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1587\">Place evidence<\/a><\/nav>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Home \u203a Family branches \u203a Departure and arrival ports Bremen, Le Havre, Queenstown, New Orleans and New York. Read Delia\u2019s, Peter\u2019s and Thomas\u2019s records alongside the older, separately qualified passenger leads. Departure and arrival ports: each voyage has its own evidence 22. New York \u2014 entry port Morrison \/ Morrisroe arrivals. 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