{"id":1582,"date":"2026-10-31T17:35:19","date_gmt":"2026-10-31T17:35:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582"},"modified":"2026-10-31T17:35:19","modified_gmt":"2026-10-31T17:35:19","slug":"shared-ships-background","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1582","title":{"rendered":"On the ship and after landing"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style>.family-topic-breadcrumb{font-size:.95rem;margin:0 0 22px}.family-topic-intro{max-width:68ch;line-height:1.7}.family-topic-menu{display:grid;grid-template-columns:repeat(2,minmax(0,1fr));gap:14px;margin:26px 0}.family-topic-menu a{display:block;padding:18px;border:1px solid #c9cec8;border-radius:4px;background:#f5f2e9;text-decoration:none;color:#293d30;min-height:52px}.family-topic-menu strong{display:block;font-size:1.1rem}.family-topic-menu span{display:block;margin-top:6px;color:#4f574e;line-height:1.55;font-size:.95rem}.family-topic-related{border-top:1px solid 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background to the crossing and arrival, with sources and no claim that every experience occurred to our relatives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<section class=\"alignwide\" id=\"four-branch-world-map\" aria-label=\"Four family branches on one world map\">\n<style>#four-branch-world-map{background:#f6f0e5;padding:clamp(12px,3vw,28px);color:#253d35}#four-branch-world-map h3{margin:28px 0 10px;font-size:1.35em}#four-branch-world-map .family-region{display:block;width:100%;height:auto;overflow:hidden;border:1px solid #adbdb3}#four-branch-world-map .family-tip{visibility:hidden}#four-branch-world-map .family-pin:hover .family-tip,#four-branch-world-map .family-pin:focus .family-tip{visibility:visible}#four-branch-world-map .family-pin:focus{outline:3px solid #253d35}#four-branch-world-map .family-card{padding:16px;margin:12px 0;background:#fffdf8;border-left:4px solid #a5b3a5;scroll-margin-top:40px}#four-branch-world-map .family-card:target{outline:3px solid #98513b;background:#fff4d9}#four-branch-world-map 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#family-tip-ottilie,#family-route-ottilie:focus~.family-route-popups #family-tip-ottilie,#family-route-agnes:hover~.family-route-popups #family-tip-agnes,#family-route-agnes:focus~.family-route-popups #family-tip-agnes,#family-route-john-curtis:hover~.family-route-popups #family-tip-john-curtis,#family-route-john-curtis:focus~.family-route-popups #family-tip-john-curtis{visibility:visible}<\/style>\n<h3 id=\"ships-and-arrival\">Across the Atlantic, then another journey<\/h3>\n<div class=\"family-card\">\n<p>Getting across the Atlantic was only part of the journey. The details below describe common conditions of the time; individual experiences varied.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1583#family-arrivals-story\">Read the story: arriving in New Orleans and New York<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>For many emigrants, the cheapest passage meant a bunk in steerage below deck. People slept, ate and spent time together in the same shared quarters, bringing their own bedding. Conditions varied, but crowding, dampness and poor ventilation were common. Food might be supplied without anyone to cook it for them. The Smithsonian\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.americanhistory.si.edu\/explore\/exhibitions\/on-the-water\/online\/maritime-nation\/enterprise-water\/aboard-packet\">account of life aboard a packet ship<\/a> describes passengers sharing a small cooking space. Rough weather could interrupt hot meals and keep people from getting fresh air on deck.<\/p>\n<p>Reaching land was often only the next stage. New Orleans had an established German-speaking community, and the German Society helped newcomers settle or continue elsewhere. Many German arrivals traveled up the Mississippi toward the Midwest. The <a href=\"https:\/\/hnoc.org\/research-collections\/research-tools\/research-pathfinders\/germans-in-louisiana\/19th-century-immigration-benevolent-organizations-and-churches\">Historic New Orleans Collection describes this immigrant network<\/a>. River travel is a possibility for our families, but their particular boats, wharves and inland connections have not been identified.<\/p>\n<p>In New York, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nps.gov\/cacl\/learn\/historyculture\/castle-garden-emigrant-depot.htm\">Castle Garden\u2019s immigrant depot<\/a> opened in 1855, decades before Ellis Island. It offered help exchanging money, buying onward railroad tickets and contacting relatives, along with a place to rest. These were services available to newcomers, not a record of Anna Budde\u2019s movements after arrival.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li id=\"ship-agnes\"><strong>Agnes, 1848:<\/strong> The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.immigrantships.net\/v20\/1800v20\/agnes18481127.html\">published transcription (NARA M259, reel 29)<\/a> records Bremen to New Orleans, November 27, with Captain H. Kruse and 195 passengers. Joh. Heinr. Bickel of Langula remains a candidate for our Henry, not a proved match. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1581#family-place-new-orleans\">Back to this port lead<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li id=\"ship-walter-1854\"><strong>Walter family, 1854:<\/strong> The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ellisisland.org\/arrival-details\/?id=QKNP-DY7B\">original manifest sequence<\/a> has a handwritten vessel name now read as <em>John Curtis<\/em> (abbreviated \u201cJno Curtis\u201d), master M. Hogan, arriving January 15, 1854 from Havre at New Orleans. The <a href=\"https:\/\/news.google.com\/newspapers?nid=i_QFVEgXGzMC&amp;dat=18540117&amp;printsec=frontpage&amp;hl=en\"><cite>Daily True Delta<\/cite>, January 17, 1854, page 3 (select page 3)<\/a> corroborates John Curtis, Hogan, Havre and 292 steerage passengers. <strong>Correction:<\/strong> Our earlier \u201cSt. Nicholas\u201d attribution was a reading error, now corrected\u2014not a conflict in the records. Franz, Cecilia and eight children strongly match the family in Cecilia\u2019s 1895 obituary; Rosa\u2019s listed age of 10 remains a discrepancy. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1581#family-place-new-orleans\">Back to this port lead<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li id=\"ship-ottilie\"><strong>Ottilie, 1860:<\/strong> The <a href=\"https:\/\/immigrantships.net\/v10\/1800v10\/ottilie18600611.html\">published transcription (NARA M237, reel 201, list 441)<\/a> lists the Bremen bark at New York on June 11, master N. Dannemann, with a recorded burthen of 640 tons. Anna Budde, 21 years 3 months, remains a possible family match. <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1581#family-place-new-york\">Back to this port lead<\/a>.<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/brema.suub.uni-bremen.de\/bremensien\/periodical\/zoom\/697622\">1860 Bremen ship list, page 328<\/a>, records Ottilie as a bark under N. Dannemann, rated at 430 Lasten, and names F. J. Wichelhausen &amp; Co. as owner or correspondent. A <a href=\"https:\/\/die-maus-bremen.info\/fileadmin\/db_query\/seeschiffsregister\/index.php?id=sifeinzel&amp;ia=S0859\">register-derived index from Die MAUS<\/a> points to a Bremerhaven build in 1857 under Nicolaus Dannemann. That construction detail remains an index-based lead; the original entry has not been checked.<\/p><p><strong>About the Appel siblings in the linked reader comment:<\/strong> This note was written by another researcher about her husband\u2019s family. No relationship between the Appel siblings and our family has been established. They appear on the same 1860 passenger list as the Anna Budde candidate; shared passage does not establish kinship.<\/p><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The Agnes and Ottilie passenger details come from transcriptions, not our inspection of their full original manifests. Their departure dates and later histories remain unestablished. Agnes\u2019s build date is unknown; Ottilie\u2019s 1857 build date is an index-based lead.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\n\n<nav class=\"family-topic-related\" aria-label=\"Related pages\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=8\">\u2190 Family branches<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1583\">Read the family arrival story<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1581\">Port evidence<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1572\">See the three routes<\/a><\/nav>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Home \u203a Family branches \u203a On the ship and after landing Historical background to the crossing and arrival, with sources and no claim that every experience occurred to our relatives. Across the Atlantic, then another journey Getting across the Atlantic was only part of the journey. 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