{"id":1604,"date":"2026-10-31T17:36:06","date_gmt":"2026-10-31T17:36:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1604"},"modified":"2026-11-02T14:36:51","modified_gmt":"2026-11-02T14:36:51","slug":"bange-records","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1604","title":{"rendered":"Bange records, sources and open questions"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<style>.family-topic-breadcrumb{font-size:.95rem;margin:0 0 22px}.family-topic-intro{max-width:68ch;line-height:1.7}.family-topic-menu{display:grid;grid-template-columns:repeat(2,minmax(0,1fr));gap:14px;margin:26px 0}.family-topic-menu a{display:block;padding:18px;border:1px solid #c9cec8;border-radius:4px;background:#f5f2e9;text-decoration:none;color:#293d30;min-height:52px}.family-topic-menu strong{display:block;font-size:1.1rem}.family-topic-menu span{display:block;margin-top:6px;color:#4f574e;line-height:1.55;font-size:.95rem}.family-topic-related{border-top:1px solid #d8d2c5;margin-top:32px;padding-top:18px}.family-topic-related a{display:inline-block;margin:6px 22px 6px 0}.family-topic-breadcrumb a:focus-visible,.family-topic-menu a:focus-visible,.family-topic-related a:focus-visible{outline:3px solid #98513b;outline-offset:4px}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb){max-width:960px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb)>p{line-height:1.7}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb) :is(h2,h3){scroll-margin-top:24px}.wp-block-post-content:has(.family-topic-breadcrumb) a{overflow-wrap:anywhere}@media(max-width:600px){.family-topic-menu{grid-template-columns:1fr}.family-topic-menu a{padding:16px}}<\/style>\n<nav class=\"family-topic-breadcrumb\" aria-label=\"Breadcrumb\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/\">Home<\/a> \u203a <a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=11\">Bange family<\/a> \u203a Bange records, sources and open questions<\/nav>\n<p class=\"family-topic-intro\">The full B1\u2013B15 source notes, the remaining identity questions, and the existing privacy note.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"bange-marriage-1853\">An American marriage names Bernard\u2019s father<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Holy Trinity register in St. Louis records <strong>John Bernard Bange and Maria Adelheid Lammers marrying on November 8, 1853<\/strong>. Its Latin wording identifies the groom as the legitimate son of <strong>Bernard Heinrich Bange<\/strong>. This is a direct father statement in the American marriage record, not a name supplied from a family tree.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The entry does not name the groom\u2019s mother or give his birthplace, German village or siblings. It substantially strengthens the comparison with the German Bange records but does not, by itself, prove the entire German\u2013American connection. The 1853 ceremony date is supported by the register; the conflicting printed 1863 date in the later anniversary account is retained as a discrepancy rather than silently adopted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:3Q9M-CSVY-SQHX-5\">Source: Most Holy Trinity, St. Louis, marriages 1849\u20131858, film 1888306, DGS 008132910, image 921<\/a>. The bride is described as a daughter of John William Lammers and Maria Catharina, whose surname is read with qualification as Ehler[s?].<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"bange-sources\">Sources and confidence<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary>Read the sources and evidence notes<\/summary>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=65\">Sources and how to read them<\/a> explains how records, recollections and unresolved questions are presented.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/data.matricula-online.eu\/de\/deutschland\/osnabrueck\/bokeloh-st-vitus\/D1_101_2\/?pg=16\">B1. St. Vitus, Bokeloh, baptism register, 1827, entry 36<\/a>. The original register supports the September 9 birth and September 10 baptism. The original residence is now read provisionally as Halle\/H\u00e4lte-like; it is not silently normalized to Helte or Holte. The matching family-held 1850 baptism extract adds substantial support for the proposed American connection; the identification and conflicting birth dates remain under review. <a href=\"https:\/\/data.matricula-online.eu\/de\/deutschland\/osnabrueck\/bokeloh-st-vitus\/\">Parish catalog and context<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/data.matricula-online.eu\/de\/deutschland\/osnabrueck\/bokeloh-st-vitus\/D2_201\/?pg=10\">B2. St. Vitus, Bokeloh, formal marriage register, July 9, 1822, page 10, row 10<\/a>. This original names both parent couples. The <a href=\"https:\/\/data.matricula-online.eu\/de\/deutschland\/osnabrueck\/bokeloh-st-vitus\/D2_004\/?pg=23\">duplicate marriage register, D2_004, page 23<\/a> confirms the couple and date, but its right-hand column is headed \u201cTestes\u201d (witnesses), not parents. The parent names come from the formal register; extending the American line through them remains conditional on confirming the German\u2013American connection.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/madison.illinoisgenweb.org\/obituaries\/obituariesB.html\">B3. Henry Bange\u2019s 1919 obituary, Illinois GenWeb transcription<\/a>. The 1850 first arrival and 1856 visit to Germany are attributed to this later account.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.immigrantships.net\/v4\/1800v4\/dhwatjen18571125_01.html\">B4. D. H. Watjen passenger-list transcription, 1857<\/a>. A candidate return-journey record; the passenger has not yet been proved to be the family\u2019s Henry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sos.mo.gov\/images\/archives\/deathcerts\/1956\/1956_00008419.PDF\">B5. Joseph Henry Bange, Missouri death certificate, 1956<\/a>. Original civil certificate. Its birth and parentage statements are retrospective. The index\/PDF locator is 8419; the visible State File stamp is 8420.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:3Q9M-CS7S-ZZSQ?cat=koha%3A669243&amp;view=explore&amp;lang=en&amp;groupId=TH-909-58570-8750-68\">B6. Holy Trinity, St. Louis, marriage register, March 1, 1859<\/a>. Manuscript page 1; film 1888307 \/ DGS 007856347, image 6. The margin reads Bernhard Heinrich Bange and Helena Angela Bruggen. Whether the mark over Bruggen\u2019s u is an umlaut remains uncertain. Joseph Bange and Maria Catharina Bruggen are witnesses, with no relationships stated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:3QS7-998M-TH2Y?cat=178298&amp;view=explore&amp;lang=en&amp;groupId=TH-1942-36926-5670-23\">B7. St. Louis civil marriage return, March 1, 1859<\/a>. Volume 9, page 182; film 528176 \/ DGS 007513820, image 427. Filed and recorded April 28, 1859. This clerk-recorded priest\u2019s return and the church entry concern the same ceremony; their agreement is not automatically independent testimony.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:3QSQ-G9KB-7XMS?lang=en&amp;i=882&amp;cc=1438856&amp;groupId=1438856\">B8. Henry Bange, Illinois death certificate, April 4, 1919<\/a>. Stamped certificate 13074, local 40; DGS 004008072, image 883. Reports father Henry Bange and mother Mary Brun[c\/e]; the final letter is uncertain. Birthday September 8, birth year blank, age 91. These retrospective statements do not resolve the competing family-record and German-candidate dates.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ancestry.com\/imageviewer\/collections\/61682\/images\/48917_302022005545_0283-00276\">B9. Wilhelmina Widmer, St. Paul, Highland baptism, 1870<\/a>. Ancestry collection 61682, image 48917_302022005545_0283-00276. Names Jacob Widmer and Elisa, n\u00e9e Reber, and states birth May 13, 1870. The overwritten baptism month favors October; the index reads September.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ancestry.com\/imageviewer\/collections\/61682\/images\/48917_302022005545_0283-00143\">B10. Jacob Widmer and Elisa Reber, St. Paul, Highland marriage, April 22, 1869<\/a>. Ancestry collection 61682, image 48917_302022005545_0283-00143. The couple\u2019s names, parish and chronology strongly support comparison with Wilhelmina\u2019s baptismal parents; no spouses\u2019 parents or European birthplace are supplied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.familysearch.org\/ark:\/61903\/3:1:3Q9M-CSLL-QPV3?cat=221609&amp;view=explore&amp;lang=en&amp;groupId=M99D-JGW\">B11. Elisabeth Widmer, n\u00e9e Reber, Highland Evangelical death register, 1870<\/a>. Printed page 201, entry 31, volume 2 (1867\u20131875); film 1433226 \/ DGS 008198847, image 765, catalog Item 6 \/ film-title Item 3. The Wattenweil and provisionally read Rhein wording concerns origin. This entry names no child. The separate family record naming Elizabeth Rueber strengthens the Elisa\/Elisabeth comparison, which remains source-qualified.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.idaillinois.org\/digital\/collection\/p16614coll22\/id\/65236\">B12. Henry Bange, Madison County declaration, June 4, 1855<\/a>. Illinois Digital Archives, NatBox D, item 65236. Reports arrival at New Orleans about December 1850. The court-record subject remains a comparison candidate for the family; no ship, parents, wife, child or German village is supplied.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.idaillinois.org\/digital\/collection\/p16614coll22\/id\/68086\">B13. Henry Bange, Madison County naturalization admission, October 20, 1863<\/a>. Naturalization Record 5, page 323; Illinois Digital Archives item 68086. Cites the June 4, 1855 declaration. The two proceedings are strongly linked to the same court subject; his identity with the family still needs to be established.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>B14. Family-held Bokeloh baptism extract and accompanying English translation.<\/strong> Photograph of a photocopy of an extract certified September 25, 1850, reporting the September 10, 1827 baptism, Maria Bruns and Helte. It gives no separate birth date. The child\u2019s and father\u2019s German given names are abbreviated; the accompanying English translation\u2019s Herman is a derivative rendering. Read with the original parish entry cited in B1. The private images are not reproduced here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>B15. Family record for Joseph Henry Bange and Wilhelmina Widmer.<\/strong> Retrospective family compilation, compiler, date and underlying sources unknown. It names Wilhelmina\u2019s parents as Jacob Widmer and Elizabeth Rueber. Preserve that source form alongside the Catholic Elisa Reber and Evangelical Elisabeth Reber. The private image is not reproduced here.<\/p>\n<\/details>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Research questions<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What further evidence can test the strongly supported proposed Bokeloh connection and explain the abbreviated German names and conflicting birth dates? Does the Madison County naturalization subject belong to this household, and can an original passenger record establish his reported December 1850 arrival? Further work on the Widmer side will test the remaining details of the Elisa Reber, Elisabeth Reber and family-record Elizabeth Rueber comparison, and the meaning of the recorded Swiss locality wording.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Privacy<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Personal details about living relatives are left out of this public account.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<nav class=\"family-topic-related\" aria-label=\"Related pages\"><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=11\">\u2190 Bange family<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1588\">Back to Family line<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1590\">Henry and Helena<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1588#widmer-walter-topics\">Widmer and Walter<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/tim-roling.com\/?page_id=1597\">Bokeloh and Riesenbeck<\/a><\/nav>\n\n\n<script>(function(){function revealTopicTarget(){var name;try{name=decodeURIComponent(window.location.hash.slice(1));}catch(e){return;}if(!name){return;}var target=document.getElementById(name);if(!target){return;}var node=target.parentElement;while(node){if(node.tagName==='DETAILS'){node.open=true;}node=node.parentElement;}}revealTopicTarget();window.addEventListener('hashchange',revealTopicTarget);})();<\/script>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Home \u203a Bange family \u203a Bange records, sources and open questions The full B1\u2013B15 source notes, the remaining identity questions, and the existing privacy note. An American marriage names Bernard\u2019s father The Holy Trinity register in St. Louis records John Bernard Bange and Maria Adelheid Lammers marrying on November 8, 1853. 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